I8217m mudando para Capitec 8211 I8217ve tinha o suficiente do Standard Bank por Dax middot Publicado em 20 de abril de 2009 middot Atualizado em 5 de dezembro de 2016 Um tempo atrás, quando eu estava comprando um carro, eu postei sobre as cargas ridículas do banco padrão para financiamento de carro. Suas acusações por tudo o resto são igualmente ridículas. Percebi que eles foram recentemente colocados no número dois e alguns da lista global de empresas top de Forbe8217s (acima de quinhentos algo). Posso dizer-lhe por que eles são tão altos na lista, porque eles cobram taxas ridículas para usar seu dinheiro. Estive com o Standard Bank por muitos anos (15 ou mais) e tenho uma conta básica de sucesso, nada extravagante (I8217m apenas um menino pobre de uma família pobre). A taxa mensal mínima é R57, a internet banking é R22, que é quase R80 por mês por nada. Se você realmente tiver que negociar, você está em problemas maiores. Retirar R1000 de um caixa eletrônico de banco padrão custará R14. Eu não quero falar sobre o custo de fazer pagamentos enquanto meu sangue está começando a ferver. Para adicionar insulto à lesão, você não ganha juros em sua conta atual I8217ve decidiu deixar o Standard Bank e passar para a Capitec. A taxa de administração mensal da conta é R4, para retirar R1000 de QUALQUER ATM é R6.50 (ou R1 se você usa um caixa eletrônico Capitec) e a internet banking é gratuita. Todos os outros encargos da conta são igualmente razoáveis e você ganha 10 juros no saldo da sua conta corrente. Abri minha conta no fim de semana, demorou cerca de uma hora e tudo parece estar em ordem. Eu planejo fechar minha conta do banco padrão no próximo mês e informá-lo-ei como tudo está acontecendo. Agora são 4 anos e meio depois e estou muito feliz por ter feito o movimento. Durante este período, eu salvei pelo menos R5.500 em taxas bancárias e não tive problemas. As taxas do banco Capitec subiram marginalmente e a taxa de juros é de cerca de 5 agora, mas o meu interesse na minha conta corrente mais do que cobre minhas taxas para o mês. Compartilhe isso: no meio do mesmo processo. A parte da Bect sobre a Capitec é uma taxa zero para uma transação de cartão de débito Claire Upton diz: A carteira de viagem Standard Bank é um pesadelo completo. Acabamos de voltar dos Estados Unidos e tentamos usar este cartão, mas a maioria dos comerciantes recusou o cartão. A única coisa que é bom é tirar dinheiro, então por que ir para o problema. Tentar resolver as coisas com a divisão de carteira de viagens é outra brincadeira, pois o meu cartão foi roubado e tentar chamar o departamento de fraude do exterior exige muito dinheiro, como você é o pai para sempre e, na maioria das vezes, está desperdiçando seu dinheiro. Parei o cartão assim que percebi que tinha desaparecido e outras transações foram registradas após essa data e agora estão dizendo que esse é meu problema. Realmente nunca vá nesta rota é tão frustrante e o pior produto que já usamos. Estou tão enfurecida por toda a experiência que estou considerando mudar o meu banco, o empréstimo à habitação e cortar todos os laços com eles. Foi simplesmente totalmente desagradável. Capitec parece ser uma ótima opção Se você acha que o Standard Bank é ruim, você deve tentar o Nedbank O maior grupo de idiotas que infestaram o rosto do planeta. Eu concordo com o gmk. Todos ficam muito muito longe de NEDBANK ou como eu gosto de Ligue para eles 8220Hell Bank8221, este banco irá pisoteá-lo tão profundamente no chão com taxas bancárias que sua única escolha para sair dele novamente seria cometer suicídio. Todo mundo que tenha queixas, registre-os no 8220Hello Peter8221 para que outros clientes potenciais não bancos com esses bancos. Estou à procura de um novo banco e parece que Capitec pode ser apenas esse banco. I8217m também com o Standard, e tenho observado com a minha boca cair na medida em que de repente subiram todas as minhas taxas, sem tanto quanto a sua licença8230. Agora, em vez da taxa fixa eu costumava pagar todas as transações, eu comecei a pagar o que Parece ser uma taxa baseada em porcentagem. Nem uma vez eles se preocuparam em me perguntar sobre isso, e muito menos me dar algum tipo de headsup. Totalmente ridículo, tanto quanto I8217m preocupado. Eu vou estar interessado em saber como ele vai com o Capitec8230 Ponto interessante que você fez. Eu fiz uma calculadora que compara todos os encargos bancários aqui em ZA. Justmoney. co. zabankaccountcharges. aspx Experimente que seja mais provável que confirme o que está dizendo, mas para o perfil de uso médio, a conta do Capitec Global One é um vencedor. Quão importante você avalia o serviço ao cliente em relação ao preço What8217s é o fator mais importante ao escolher um banco para se comprometer com o Gream Agradecimentos, usei a calculadora e confirmou que eu realmente ganharia dinheiro na minha conta atual, pois o interesse será maior Do que as taxas. Ansioso pelo fenômeno Dianne 8211 meus requisitos bancários são simples. Preciso de uma conta para manter meu dinheiro e me permitir fazer alguns pagamentos, etc. O serviço não desempenha um papel. Talvez uma conta comercial seja diferente. I8217m não está sugerindo que o serviço Capitec seja pior do que o Standard Bank8217s. Por tudo o que sei, pode ser melhor. Reunimos uma enquete olhando o que as pessoas procuram em um banco. Pode ser encontrado aqui: Dax boa sorte com sua nova conta adoraria ouvir como você os encontra quando você troca o Graeme 8211 Obrigado por criar a pesquisa, it8217s será interessante ver o que os resultados mostram Dax 8211 Mantenha-nos publicados no O serviço ao cliente que você obtém também. 8211 ótimos produtos indicam uma organização centrada no cliente, então, deixe8217 verifique se isso é seguido na frente do serviço ao cliente. Oi dax, incrível, obrigado por ser a cobaia. E por favor, nos mantenha informados do que você disse, o Capitec parece incrível. Você também moveu seu cartão de crédito para eles (se você tiver um) estou me perguntando se isso acontecerá para me mudar para lá? Porque eu atualmente tenho uma conta corrente do Std Bank que está vinculada ao meu cartão de crédito do Std Bank, que é realmente Pagamentos convenientes, etc. Eu tenho um cartão de crédito com o Standard Bank, mas eu não uso isso, it8217s meu cartão de reposição no caso de algo acontecer com meu cartão primário, que é um cartão Discovery. A Capitec não tem um cartão de crédito, embora I8217m tenha certeza de que irão no futuro. O que eu sei é que pagar o seu cartão de crédito Standard Bank on-line da sua conta Capitec ainda será mais barato do que transferir dinheiro da sua outra conta do Standard Bank. Essa é a razão pela qual estou me movendo. Eu sugiro que você mate o cartão de crédito Standard Bank e substitua-o por um cartão de crédito Virgin (sem taxa anual) e mate sua conta corrente do Standard Bank e mude para o Capitec. Essa será a combinação ideal. Eu ficarei com meu cartão de crédito Discovery porque os pontos de fidelidade realmente valem a pena. Oi, dax, obrigado pelo conselho8230 me parece muito bom. Você deve considerar uma carreira no planejamento financeiro pessoal Oi Dax Ótimo para ouvir Você abriu uma conta conosco Você definitivamente aproveitará os benefícios de redução de custos e tentamos tornar o banco tão simples e fácil quanto possível também. E apenas gritar se há algo de que precisa ajudar. Cheers Sumarie Brand (Banco Capitec) Olá Dax Encontrei seu blog enquanto procurava informações sobre o Capitec. Parece que você fez o que eu penso fazer. Depois de estar com o Standard Bank nos últimos 19 anos, acho que é hora de mudar. A última gota foi quando eles me cobraram um total de R380 em taxas 8220over limit8221 na minha conta de cheques, enquanto havia muitos fundos disponíveis na minha conta de poupança. Eu percebi que isso foi culpa minha, mas estou doente e cansado de entrar na internet banking para mudar números ao redor. O que eu gosto da conta Capitec é que tudo está em uma conta com juros. Posso apenas colocar todas as minhas poupanças na conta e transitar a partir daí. Por que can8217t outros bancos fazem isso, eu ainda estou olhando as diferentes opções, mas Capitec parece que poderia funcionar para mim. Vou verificar aqui para ver como as coisas funcionaram para você. Mudei para Capitec há cerca de um ano. Eu estava com o padrão antes, deixe8217 nem sequer falar sobre isso. Eu não fui mais que impressionado pela eficiência, taxas e interesse da Capitec8217s. Eu quase caí sobre o primeiro que eles colocaram dinheiro na minha conta. Não tenho nada além de críticas favoritas para o Capitec e incentivo qualquer pessoa que esteja pensando em fazer uma mudança. FYI Movi meu cartão de crédito para a Virgin Money, onde também recebo 10 em qualquer saldo positivo. Eles também foram realmente ótimas para lidar em comparação com o Standard Bank, exceto que, obviamente, tenho que pagar qualquer montante que venha ao crédito. Quando você encontrar um banco que não exige que você faça isso, deixe-me saber com uma atualização sobre o meu progresso com a mudança do Standard Bank para o Capitec: tive que fazer uma segunda viagem no ramo Capitec para abrir minha conta de poupança ligada à minha atual conta. Eu poderia fazer tudo a partir de uma conta, pois o interesse é o mesmo, mas para a segurança Eu quero minhas economias separadas (don8217t quer ser sequestrado e mantido sob uma arma de fogo enquanto esvaziam minhas economias de vida da minha conta em R1000 por dia 8211 que levaria 2 dias). Eu poderia ter me salvo a segunda visita se tivesse pensado nisso antes de entrar na primeira vez. Cerrei minha conta do Market Link no Standard Bank e fiz que eles transferissem o saldo para minha conta atual. Quando isso foi feito, eu transferi para isso na minha conta Capecês de poupança. Então eu loguei no banco de internet da Capitec, era um serviço on-line muito básico, mas eu poderia fazer o que eu precisava fazer, que foi configurado para repetir pagamentos para o meu aluguel etc. Eu tive que telefonar para o call center para obter os detalhes do suspense da FNB Conta para que eu possa pagar meu cartão de descoberta. O call center Capitec foi eficiente e útil. Entre em contato com todas as empresas que debitam minha conta todos os meses e informaram-na sobre a mudança de detalhes. Eu também informei os RH dos novos detalhes do meu salário. Eu deixei algum dinheiro na minha conta Standard Bank caso esqueci sobre algum débito. Eu vou fechá-lo no próximo mês e o processo será concluído. It8217s foi um pouco de administrador, mas acho que valerá a pena. Isso me interessou muito (sendo um longo cliente Standard Wank). Você pode publicar alguns detalhes sobre como obter esses Acentos Capitec e Vigin É apenas uma questão de ir a um ramo perto de você Oi, Simon, abrir uma conta é fácil. Basta ir ao seu ramo mais próximo da Capitec com sua ID e uma conta de utilidade recente (para provar seu endereço residencial). Demora alguns minutos e você tem sua nova e brilhante conta bancária. Para o cartão de crédito Virgin, vá para virginmoney. co. za e clique em 8216Apply Now8217. Fácil como Embora no mês passado, a pesquisa Justmoney, o que você procura em um banco. Mostrou que os clientes querem taxas baixas de banco acima de tudo, parece que a Capitec possui um ótimo sistema: baixas taxas bancárias e uma abordagem centrada no cliente. Bem feito O que sobre o histórico de crédito na aplicação de empréstimos para casa ou negócios. Eu fui ao banco padrão ontem e perguntei sua opinião sobre o fato de que todos os seus clientes estão indo para outro lugar, sua resposta foi que sim você obtém melhores taxas, mas quando se trata de histórico de crédito isso pode afetá-lo quando se candidatar a empréstimos8230. Eu duvido que Afetam você ao solicitar empréstimos. A Lei de Crédito especifica os critérios que são utilizados para avaliar o seu valor de crédito. A lealdade é uma coisa do passado. Você não tem nenhuma relação 8216 com seu banco, mesmo que tente fingir que você faz. Quando você quer um empréstimo, eles digitam os números em seu programa de software e ele diz o quanto você pode emprestar e é isso. Também olhando para mudar os bancos depois de verificar minha última declaração ABSA para ver que eles estão me cobrando mais de R400 por mês em transações eletrônicas básicas. Telefonou ABSA e agora me dizem que podem dar uma opção de taxa de conta gerenciada na metade das minhas taxas atuais. LOL 8211 agora depois de me arrancar por 13 anos. Realmente peaked e decidiu mudar os bancos e encontrou esse blog enquanto fazia pesquisas sobre o Capitec. Eu ficaria interessado em ouvir sua experiência, já que pensei em transferir todas as minhas contas da Absa para o Capitec. Você tem a conta completa do Capitec8217s e você transferiu seu veículo e vínculo para esta conta também e, em caso afirmativo, como havia taxas, eu não acho que a Capitec oferece financiamento de automóveis ou títulos (eu não tenho). Ainda seria necessário manter aqueles com a instituição onde estão atualmente. Mas o pagamento das parcelas mensais será mais barato com a Capitec, uma vez que as taxas de transferência são baixas. O capitão é um banco real que você pode capitalizar sobre isso, em termos de encargos financeiros (por exemplo, transação que é bom para atingir) desde que entrei no capitão há vários meses, nunca me vi pânico sobre a viabilidade financeira. Banco, o que eu gosto de saber mais é me avisar e como posso ser visto notificar intercâmbios de transações financeiras. E assim, depois de mais de 15 anos com o Standard Bank, entrei no ramo Paddocks hoje e fechei minha conta. Eles tentaram me convencer a não fazê-lo, mas depois que eu expliquei as benfits da mudança, eu acho que eles podem mover suas próprias contas também. Eu tenho um cheque para o saldo na minha conta do Standard Bank e quando eu depositei na minha conta do Capitec, o processo será concluído. Por que demorou tanto tempo para perceber que eu deixei o Standard Bank há mais de um ano e economizei muito nas cobranças. Agora estou sendo vítima. Para um empréstimo pessoal que tirei do Standard Bank, embora eu pague regularmente, recebo várias chamadas de advogados que representam o Standard Bank. Ignorei esses advogados. Tenho provas de pagamentos que faço. Nestes momentos difíceis, os bancos devem ser bons para manter clientes, mas o Banco padrão não é. Bem, hoje tentei pela segunda vez abrir uma conta com a Capitec. Eles não têm um ramo na minha área, então é uma missão para ir lá. A primeira vez que fui lá, eu tinha uma conta de utilidade desatualizada, então foi minha culpa, eu acho. Hoje, quando eu fui lá, eles de repente queriam algum ou outro certificado de imposto. Então eu disse-lhes que eles acabaram de perder um cliente 8211. Não vou pela terceira vez. Eu ainda quero deixar o Standard Bank, então a busca está ativada novamente8230 Apenas a minha opinião, tente a conta experiente do Nedbanks ligada a uma conta de poupança justinvest. Será em torno de R68 por mês e você receberá swaps ilimitados e 3 retiradas gratuitas por mês. Você já tem 4 interesse nisso. Isso aumentará para 6 com mais dinheiro nele. Eu gosto do nedbank por causa de sua responsabilidade social e da maneira como eles tratam seus funcionários. Você deve ir com um banco que lhe dá a menor taxa de juros ao comprar uma casa ou carro. I8217ve trabalhado em ABSA, FNB e banco padrão. E eu direi que era um inferno em comparação com o Nedbank. Você sempre sente que vai perder seu emprego. Nedbank reconheceu que eles desaceleram em certas áreas e se comprometeu a mudar. Eles realmente se interessam pela equipe e NUNCA se retraitam. Isso poderia realmente mudar as coisas em 5 a 10 anos. Quanto ao Capitec, eu tenho medo que ele possa puxar um SAMBOU para nós. SAMBOU caiu durante uma alta econômica. Haverá uma recessão de três mergulhos globalmente, e isso afetará a SA 3 ª vez. Estou apenas preocupado com isso. Com direitos exclusivos para a AMEX e alguns recursos on-line futuros. Eu acho que NEDBANK poderia ser o melhor em SA no meio do meio. O Nedbank caiu em torno de 2002, mas novas políticas realmente mudaram que dois sérios desafios para nós é motivar funcionários em filiais de usuários finais e nosso call center. Este é um problema que o nedbank reconhece e está trabalhando. Você já deve ver as vantagens em termos de nosso call center, e também estamos olhando para ter sucursais abertos aos domingos também. A minha opinião é que o banco que cuida melhor os seus funcionários e tenha responsabilidade social, em geral, emergirá o melhor banco. Há muitas coisas que o nedbank faz para a sociedade que a maioria das pessoas está ciente. A equipe do Nedbank está atrasada realmente motivada para promover o NEDBANK como um grande banco. Tshifhiwa Nengovhela diz: Eu não recomendaria uma conta experiente do Nedbank, pois sofri grandes penalidades enquanto estava no Lesoto. Eu paguei 90.00 por cada transação que eu fiz. Agregue taxas diversas, taxas de serviço e algumas outras cobranças que o banco não poderia explicar. Apenas vá para um banco e retire dinheiro de sua conta experiente e você verá que isso é verdade. Tenho a paz de espírito desde que mudei para a conta Capitec. O Capitec realmente faz o banco mais fácil e simples. Em vez de pagar taxas de conta, agora recebo interesse no meu bolso. Anchen Els diz: Eu sou um ex-cliente do banco padrão que mudou para Capitec no ano passado para minha pequena empresa. Foi a melhor decisão que eu poderia ter tomado. Minhas tarifas bancárias são tão baixas e seu serviço é ótimo. Somos 12 senhoras em um 8220stokvel8221 - usamos para ter uma conta de banco padrão para economias. Este montante é de cerca de R45 000 por ano. No banco padrão, o interesse que ganhamos era sempre exatamente igual ao das taxas bancárias do ano. Começamos a bancar nosso dinheiro no capitec em julho do ano passado e no final de novembro, cada membro poderia receber uma quantidade de juros de R200. Pode parecer uma pequena quantidade, mas foi R2400 em 6 meses, acho que é excelente. Eu faço um monte de internet banking - o site da Capitec8217s é fácil de usar e é barato. Eu gostaria de poder mover todas as nossas contas para o Capitec. Mas eles não têm um empréstimo hipotecário ou conta bancária. Então, meu marido, infelizmente, tem que ficar com o ABSA. Eu recomendaria um swop para o Capitec para qualquer um que queira salvar o ditado favorito de minha avó8217 era que, se você não economizar um centavo, você nunca pode salvar um rand. Ela era uma dona de casa em uma fazenda durante toda a vida e fez um pouco de dinheiro criando galinhas, vendendo ovos, fazendo crochêtes, vendendo manteiga caseira, etc. Nunca ganhou muito dinheiro, mas usou alguns e gastou com sabedoria. Ela faleceu em fevereiro e seu valor em dinheiro era mais de um milhão de rands - ela era um exemplo para mim - e acho mais fácil banco com a Capitec e começar a salvar esses centavos e rands do que levantar galinhas82308230. O banco padrão é uma maré da noite R1200 taxas bancárias fixas por ano sem qualquer transação incluída. Depósitos, internet banking, retiradas, stop order e. t.c são todos cobrados separadamente. Foram 4 meses sem usar o meu check-up padrão e me dizem que eu devo-lhes R1200. Não posso esperar para fechar isto de acordo com Eu estou gostando de economizar meu dinheiro com a Capitec, e pague por você e usei a um preço muito baixo, se não gratuito. R60 por ano cobrança bancária Cumprimentando a todos. Hoje foi o dia de Potji. As discussões habituais sobre o rugby 8211 cricket 8211 soccer e, em seguida, alguns como o assunto mudou para financiar. O ANTIGO MAN bancos com FNB. Este homem antigo bancos com ABSA. Então, alguém estava com o Ned outro com o Std. Ninguém, quando perguntei, estava com Capitec. It era um caso de capi que. Tenho 3 contas com ABSA. One com STD. A menos que alguém possa apresentar uma boa razão por que não, eu vou transferir para o CAPITEC este mês. Eu também vou ter os outros que comigo para procurar o Capitec e fazer algumas perguntas. Obrigado a todos por sua contribuição. Obrigado à internet, sem isso eu ainda me perguntaria. Capitec é uma boa opção, desde que você esteja procurando por uma conta de poupança de baunilha. Eles don8217t oferecem empréstimos para habitação e contas ligadas ao mercado e tudo isso. Você pode ter 1 conta com 3 sub-contas vinculadas a ela. It8217s barato e o interesse é maior. Até agora, I8217m feliz. Eu não tenho que depositar, se você depositar dinheiro ou cheques com freqüência, verifique se o seu ramo mais próximo será porque você precisa fazê-lo na filial. Morning Dax. Fui para o site Capitec e vi alguns dos comentários de pessoas que wern8217t feliz. Um foi o lugar onde o Capitec demorou 4 anos para recuperar o dinheiro que foi roubado da conta. Não pode encontrar um comentário da Capitec sobre isso. A outra coisa que me faz pensar é que o principal capital investido no negócio é por Riaan Stassen e leRoux. O que acontece quando eles se retiram. Nós acabamos com outro colapso bancário com os clientes perdendo suas economias. Basta ler um artigo sobre os altos preços do banco8282 http. persfin. co. zaindex. phpfArticleId5044542. Extravagantemente, mesmo que o artigo seja intitulado 8220 Os bancos de mudança são uma forma de lidar com cobranças elevadas8221, eles apenas discutem os 4 bancos 8216big8217 (e quão alto são as suas taxas) e don8217t até menciona o Capitec como uma alternativa. Apenas o Standard Bank se ajudou a 20 de Um cheque recentemente bancado. 20. It8217s é um cheque estrangeiro (Google), mas ainda não consigo ver como eles podem justificar a cobrança de uma taxa tão alta quando já foi convertida em rands no momento em que chegou a mim, e não exigiu um cálculo de moeda. Mais uma razão para fazer negócios em outro lugar. Yikes. Verifique este site, comprovou que a Capitec oferece o melhor valor que tenho feito com a Capitec há mais de 5 anos, estava com o padrão antes disso, e nunca me arrependi disso. Tenho totuced capitec para todos os meus amigos e aqueles que se mudaram nunca se arrependeram. É uma conta de poupança sem frescura, mas desde que ofereceu internet banking (de graça, exceto por baixos custos de transferência (R $ 1,5 por transação)) foi ótimo. Em uma das contas extras, coloquei R7000 e recebi R66 por mês. Algumas coisas mudaram, e embora não me faça arrepender da minha decadência, deve ser notado. Os juros sobre crédito caíram. Veja a tabela abaixo e as taxas de serviço aumentaram. No entanto, eles ainda expulsam todos os outros bancos da água. Agora eles só têm que trabalhar nessas longas filas, embora com a internet, eu não tenho que me preocupar mais com taxas e taxas Conta de Plano de Poupança de Poupança Diária Termo Flexível Prazo Fixo R0 R10 000 7,00 7,00 7,50 R10 000 R25 000 6,75 6,75 8,00 R25 000 R100 000 6,75 6,75 8,25 R100 000 R2 000 000 6,75 6,75 8,50 Taxa mensal de administração 4,00 4,00 LIVRE Em vigor a 26 de julho de 2009 Chantelle Flores diz: O banco padrão é chocante Nos últimos dois meses tem sido um pesadelo com eles para dizer pelo menos 8211 e antes disso Desastre à espera de acontecer Eu tenho uma conta de cheque e notei que os últimos 2 meses - R4000.00 saiu da minha conta bancária padrão 8211 como resultado, minha conta entrou em descoberto. O que me surpreende é que eu não solicitei uma facilidade de descoberto 8211, de fato, eu recusei uma quando um representante de vendas me contatou. Eu tive essa conta por mais de 6 anos e nunca uma vez estive em um saldo negativo. Ao chamar o banco não tinham nenhuma explicação para isso, eles me disseram que eu não tinha uma facilidade de descoberto. No entanto, quando eu verificar a minha declaração, recebo uma cobrança a cada mês de um intentar no descoberto, o que, aparentemente, não exista. Quando entre em contato com o banco novamente, recebo que eu receba cobrança de uma taxa mensal por não ter uma facilidade de descoberto. Eu não posso ganhar Para piorar as coisas 8211 Nos últimos 5 meses, recebi cobranças sobre R1000 por taxas bancárias e internet banking que por 4 meses não funcionou. Este serviço foi concebido para tornar a vida mais fácil até o final de cada mês, eu me encontrei neste estupido banco lutando contra uma causa perdida. Nunca mais ouvi falar do Capitec até a sua recente campanha de adição e decidi fazer algumas pesquisas sobre elas (isto é, como eu encontrei este site). AMD. Assim como tudo o resto na África do Sul (internet, tarifas de celular, etc.), os custos bancários são absolutamente absurdos. Obviamente, o Capitec é o melhor caminho a seguir, e do que eu lido aqui, eles parecem estar estáveis e crescerem ainda mais fortes. A Capitec provou que eles podem reduzir drásticamente as taxas bancárias e ainda ser bem sucedido. Em qualquer caso, isso prova como o chamado 8220Big Banks8221 da S. A. vem explorando seus clientes há décadas. Na minha opinião, eles não são mais do que criminosos, roubando nosso dinheiro arduamente pago. É CRIMINAL. Obrigado a Dax por publicar este assunto. Eu sei que vou mudar bancos e aconselhar os amigos a fazer o mesmo. O Hi Dax 8211 Standard Bank tem muitas opções de rip-off, mas depois de estudar cuidadosamente sua planilha, encontrei uma opção que realmente tem um valor decente. A minha escolha é a conta Standard Bank Classic Checque com taxa mensal fixa de R87pm, que está me dando internet banking, 8 retiradas, várias ordens de débito grátis (usando 3) e 30 EFTs grátis (usando cerca de 8 meses). Embora as taxas da Capitec por transação sejam as mais baixas, eu não acho que eles tenham um pacote como esse. Isso é uma melhoria, parece que Capitec está agitando as coisas. Mas eles ainda não pagam nenhum interesse em sua conta atual. Eu ganho mais interesse no pouco de fundos em minha conta atual do que as taxas que eu pago. Isso é como eu gosto disso. Ps. Suas retiradas gratuitas são apenas nos caixas eletrônicos do Standard Bank. 8 retira as lojas com Capitec R1.20 vezes 8 R9.60. Ou no banco R2.20 8 R17.60 10 EFTs custaria R11.50 5 As ordens de débito custariam a taxa de administração mensal R11 R4 Portanto, no que você realmente usa, você pagaria R27.10. Ou R35.10 Portanto, o Capitec iria economizar R67 por mês mais você obteve uma taxa de juros enorme (6,75 mensais compilados é o mínimo). Portanto, todos os anos você economizaria R804 em taxas de juros sozinhas. Então você ainda consegue adicionar suas economias compostas mensalmente. As declarações Plus são gratuitas quando você possui internet e internet banking também é grátis (ou seja, não há cobrança mensal, mas você paga por transação). Por que ir para um pacote quando você pode marcar muito mais alto em taxas de serviço individuais. Eu só queria agradecer a todos por todas as informações muito úteis. Eu estive sem trabalho permanente durante a maior parte do ano, então tentei reduzir custos sempre que possível. I8217ve sido com o Standard Bank por quase 16 anos e naqueles anos eu nunca consegui mais do que 1c de volta deles. Eles já tiraram de mim, como no mês passado, onde eles me cobraram quase R300 por taxas atrasadas no meu cartão de crédito, porque eu não poderia pagar no tempo, e eles não poderiam ter sido incomodados quando eu disse que eu atualmente não tinha renda. Eu pensei em mudar para a Capitec e I8217m muito feliz por ver que eles têm muitos clientes felizes. Estarei fazendo o meu trabalho muito, muito em breve. Obrigado novamente pela informação útil Well Talk sobre uma linha de identificação atraente. Eu pensei em mudar de padrão por um tempo agora e seu blog surgiu (como aconteceu com vários outros a julgar pelos comentários acima) quando fiz uma busca pelo Capitec. Eu abri seu site antes do site da Capitec e você decidiu por mim antes de fazer qualquer leitura em seu site 8211 Dax, eles deveriam começar a pagar sua comissão por cada conversor. Nos últimos dois meses, os funcionários do banco padrão me custaram R200,00 por causa de sua incompetência e, apesar de ter o pacote de carga fixa de R87,00, hoje recebi R3,00 para enviar uma confirmação de pagamento por fax. Laughable quando você Considere que, para um adicional de R $ 1,00, seria igual à taxa de administração mensal da Capitec. Eu trabalho no Central Durban e ai, um Capitec, ao virar da esquina, do meu bloco de escritórios na West Street 8211, à direita, pouco antes da SARS. Assim que chegar em casa esta noite, eu vou colocar a minha conta de utilitário mais recente na minha bolsa e amanhã, durante a minha hora de almoço, acredito que vou dar um passeio de mentira para abrir uma conta com eles. YeeeeeHaaaaa também estou com padrão e as cobranças são loucas. Entrei em contato com capitec, mas eles disseram que não têm contas comerciais. Obrigado pelo seu interesse no Capitec Bank. O Capitec Bank oferece uma facilidade de conta de poupança conhecida como Global One Banking Facility. O Global One Facility é uma oferta única de produtos que é projetada para um indivíduo. Atualmente, não temos um produto projetado para atender às necessidades de um cliente comercial corporativo. No entanto, oferecemos a Facilidade de Transferência de Salário do Empregador (ESTF) que permite que você faça pagamentos em massa semanais ou mensais econômicos. Você também pode liquidar a folha de pagamento de qualquer local porque é um produto baseado na Internet, oferecendo conveniência como nunca antes. Se você tiver dúvidas adicionais a este respeito, entre em contato com o Commercial Client Care no 0860 667706. Sally, feliz em ouvir você8217re fazendo o movimento. I8217m com certeza você deve ser feliz. Fil, você está correto, eles não estão orientados a negócios no momento. I8217m com certeza que virá com o tempo. Eu tenho que depositar um cheque do Google, então estou esperando para ver como eles lidam com isso porque o ramo não conseguiu fazê-lo. A realidade é que o Capitec é ótimo, desde que você tenha necessidades básicas básicas de transação. Ele não se adequa a todos e se você tiver necessidades bancárias complicadas, então, pagar as taxas extras para um dos outros bancos provavelmente vale a pena. Dito isto, criei contas ligadas à minha conta para meus vários negócios, porque eu realmente só preciso receber pagamentos e fazer pagamentos para os quais a Capitec é bastante adequada. Que tal uma atualização no serviço Capitec8217s Então eu coloco o Capitec recentemente. Recebi um cheque do Google e não é de um banco sul-africano para que o leitor de cheques no ramo não pudesse lê-lo. O gerente do ramo deveria acompanhar e me ligar durante a semana, mas didn8217t (ele disse que estava esperando que a sede voltasse para ele). Então eu liguei para o call center. Eles não foram muito úteis, então eu enviei um e-mail ao Sumarie da Capitec, que deixou uma das mensagens acima. Ela me colocou em contato com a pessoa correta e fui e depositei o cheque no dia seguinte. Todos classificados e sem custos adicionais. Fiquei feliz, mas espero que todos os outros que tenham tais dificuldades possam resolvê-los facilmente. Eu paguei R110 000,00 na minha conta de títulos da Capitec. Foi cobrado R1.20 em taxas mais R2 para a confirmação de fax que enviei, o que também lhe permite uma página de capa completa onde você pode escrever um ensaio completo para o beneficiário. R3.20 para essa transação, onde mais eu poderia conseguir isso. Ainda feliz com eles, depois de 5 anos agora. Não tão grande poupança, mas ainda 8,5 interesses compostos é melhor do que em qualquer outro lugar. Fiquei um pouco desapontado quando tentei comprar um pedido de débito de R15 000 e não passaria, já achei que existe um limite de R10 000,00 para compras de pedidos de débito. Oi pessoal, também estou cansado de todas as acusações de todos esses bancos de touro Sht. Eu finalmente tenho um grande capital para investir, algum órgão sabe se o Capitec pode vencer uma taxa de investimento de 6.85 em um investimento de prazo fixo, essa é a taxa que o ABSA me forneceu. Eu uso banco com o Nedbank há anos, mas eles me arrancaram. Agora eu tenho cerca de R300,000.00 para investir, por favor avise-me se eu abrir um acordo de acordo com Capitec o que é que eu posso ganhar nesse capital. O Acto normal da Capitec8217s oferece um interesse de 6.25 e você tem acesso total a todos os seus dinheiros. Isso é por uma taxa de administração de R4 por mês. Para termos fixos, obtém um interesse de 8,5, e é de 6 a 12 meses. Certifique-se de que é um interesse composto. Você deve escolher a opção de reinvestimento caso contrário você ganhará juros simples. Sobre o que não tenho certeza, é se os outros bancos compõem o interesse diariamente, já que a Capitec combina os juros mensalmente com o interesse fixo. O que é diferente da conta poupança quando eu tirei pela primeira vez. Isso pode ser algo a ser observado, pois faz uma grande diferença para o seu interesse ganhado. Thank you for clearing that for me Justin, i will most def go to the West str branch on Saturday to get all the details. i have burned my hands b4 with Nedbank so this time round i am doing my home work. if they can offer me an intrest rate of 8.5 that is geat do you know whether Capitec bank has got an even higher intrest rate on another investment. Cause ABSA offored me an intrist rate of 8.25 on their 9010 acc. CAPITEC are my heroes. I didn8217t believe it when they claimed you could use their debit card to draw money at any Maestro friendly ATM in the world without any prior arrangements. In October when I visited London, I was filled with glee when I could draw at the ATM as much as 250 Pounds per day using the Capitec debit card without speaking to anyone first. This was ofcourse after the Standard Bank Travel Wallet was a total stress. I just changed from Standard Bank Standard Bank suck big time I just phoned Capitec today to find the nearest branch, i just about had enough with Standard bank. Been with them for years but they never made it simpler better or faster for me, just grief. fees are ridiculous. hope i8217m making the right move though. We think you8217re making the right move, but be sure to pop back and let us know how it goes. Hi Dax Have been with Capitec for more than a year now. Am vey happy. Thier banking hours are also great. Open at 8.00am and close at 5.00pm. Saturday they are open until 1.00pm. I think it is great plus all the other great deals. Quick question: Can anyone tell me what exactly the difference is between Capitec8217s 8220Savings Plan8221 and Fixed Term Saving Plan8221. The brochure says one chooses your own term on the 8220Savings Plan8221, yet you have immediate access to funds when needed 8211 does that mean penalties on withdrawals, or what My need is for an account to use for daily transacting, and a separate account for savings (so I don8217t accidentally spend my savings I have to be able to get to my savings immediately when necessary, though, and would not then like to pay penalties (Would rather go into a money market account, then 8211 I8217d already be earning less interest for the sake of convenience by going to Capitec with my savings) You can have up to 5 linked accounts. All of the accounts are 8216savings accounts8217 as opposed to 8216loan accounts8217. Fixed term gives you more interest but it8217s a fixed term. I have 1 account I use as a 8216current8217 account (but they still call it a savings account) and the rest are savings account into which I transfer money when I have it and I sometimes take money out when required. Simple . I havebeen banking with standard bank for 15 years, and i have just had enough, apart from all the charges they charge, they have refused me anything i have ever requested frm them, home loan, credit card, car finance and a personal loan. I got all of these from different banks who were more than willing to help. Up Ures standard bank if this is the thanks i get for all those years with u Rose Francis says: Capitec is a far Winner in all categories service, costs and fees, reliability, etc. I HIGLY recomment Capitec, I8217ve bee to a couple of branches in various places and the services rendered are equally pleasant 8211 that8217s an added bonus to the low fees we pay and the interest we receive. Opended a new capitec account last week and plan to close my Absa one next week. I want a bank which focuses on the basic stuff 8211 so I dont have to subsidise, through my banking fees, their big buildings in Sandton, massive top management salaries, expensive adds in every newspaper, their gambling habits in the international futures and money markets, and their acquisition of dubious companies and properties. Not to mention the effort they make in screwing over the little fish. They are too big not to fail. Phansi Absa phansi Opened an account last week with Capitec. Uau. Awesome experience so far. Can8217t wait to actually start earning some interest on my account for once. Hope to close my FNB cheque account soon. oh wait too late8230 compounded daily8230 I guess I8217ve already earned some interest on the money I put in when I opened the account. Tired of having to go into Nedbank to give formal written notice that I want to make a withdrawl on my savings account, I have just tried to open a Capitec Account. Arrived with ID and proof of residence, but then get told I need Employment Contracts or tax returns. Why I only want to open a savings account. Just phoned the Capitec helpdesk, they don8217t know why I need this. I did my tax return online8230. and am a freelancer without a written contract. So much for no paperwork at Capitec Bank. Is there a actually a decent bank in South Africa I8217m not sure what8217s happened there, I wasn8217t required to produce those documents8230 I wasn8217t required to have those documents either, the only thing i can think of is that they mistook you for wanting to open a loan account, and those documents were needed for verification of your ability to repay. Credit Act. Otherwise don8217t know and the fact that the call center does not know seems to indicate a misundertanding or a dumb employee, which every organisation has. There will be a complaint book right there in the foyer though that you can lodge your grievance if it was a dumb employee. As others I researched Capitec and Google led me to your blog. For personal money matters I need a bank for the follwing: 1. Cash 2. Debit orders 3. Electronic payments 4. Savings and Interest Capitec will do all this for me at low rates. My question may sound silly, but 8230 Do I still need a Credit Card as well and if yes, what for For your credit rating. When you go looking for money the institutions look at your credit rating. With no cheque or credit card account, you have no rating and it will take longer if ever to secure that loan. Good way to stay under the radar though8230 Thanks for answering that so quickly. I thought the Capitec account is a combined savingscheque account. On thinkmoney. co. za it is listed under current accounts. I am so glad I asked the question. 1. How often should one then use a Credit Card 2. What other advantages are there, if any, of using a Credit Card The Capitec accounts are all 8216savings8217 accounts (remember that when drawing from an ATM) but they behave like current accounts in that there are no restrictions on what you can do. The advantages of a credit card are that you get interest free money for up to 45 days, you get free transacting, convenience and possibly rewards. I use my discovery credit card to pay for everything and at the end of the month I just transfer the amount I owe. That way I pay no interest and I earn interest on that money while it is in my savings account. I also earn discovery miles on all my transactions and pay no transaction fees. There are 2 disadvantages, 1 is that you might be tempted to use the credit instead of paying the whole balance. That becomes expensive and can lead to debt problems. It depends on how disciplined you are. The other is that there is an annual fee of around R200 depending on the card. I recommend the Virgin credit card which has no annual fee. You will need to have credit worthiness to get a credit card though as it is the same as being given a loan, so some people do not qualify under the national credit act. I8217m not sure that Justin is correct about the credit rating as now with the credit act, having a credit card counts against you because they look at your total liabilities. But I could be wrong. Espero que ajude. Thank you so much for your replies Justin and Dax It is most helpful. I settle all my accounts with Standard bank via an attorney (debt consolidation)only to get a phone call from them, 10 MONTHS later, informing me that I owe an amount of R40 000. They could not explain where that amount came from. Somehow, now the amount has been reduced to R28 500. They cannot find proof of payment on their account for the day on which the payments were made. I will never bank with Standard bank ever Firstly Dax 8211 GREAT BLOG. I have been involved in business developmentmarketing for a long time within the financial services arena, and I can tell you with certainty, the so called 8220big 48221 are so arrogant and narrow minded that they think that this blog is just a blip on the radar. Hehehe lets see this time next year when Capitec once again increases earnings by over 30 year on year. Well done Justin and Dax Well I8217ve been telling everyone I know to go over to Capitec. I8217ve had my account for a few weeks now. I can8217t believe how much money I8217ve practically thrown away with absolutely no benefit to me since I started working. I8217m now convinced that anyone who uses the big 4 do so out of ignorance. They don8217t care about you, they charge you a fortune, and they8217re constantly trying to get you to waste more money. The thing I8217ve liked most about Capitec is they are not stuck in the dark ages. Everything is geared towards the technology and convenience that someone in 2010 has available to them. Sometimes it seems that the big 4 are still trying to do business the way it had to be done 100 years ago except with computers. Capitec is breaking out the box and I look forward to seeing what they do in the future. Thanks that I found this site. Iam sick of Standard bank. I have been with them for over 20 years and their service just gets worse and worse. I found that they charge me a fortune for basic things and they DO NOT even bother to listen to your complaints. I was looking at Capitec but now Iam convinced, Iam opening my account tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback guys, Iv heard from other people locally that Capitec is cheap and gives better service than these other banks. I8217ll keep you guys posted Good afternoon all. I really love the service amp help received from Capitec Bank, I would just like to leave 1 comment. I would really like to see more ATM8217s around of Capitec. If this happens i am sure that the 8216BIG 58243 will not survive. Please Dax slet me know are you8217ll working on a plan to put more ATM8217s around. Cheers from a very happy 8220) Capitec Client. I certainly will not be putting more ATMs around as I don8217t work for Capitec, although I am hoping they decide to advertise on my site because this post is getting lot of traffic. I believe that Spark ATMs charge the same as Capitec ATMs so maybe give them a try and see what the charges are. There are quite a few of those around. With regards to the ATMS, you can use any Atm, same as the top 4 banks, the charges are still low. R6 for any transaction, flat fee, no matter your withdrawl amount:)no matter whihc Saswich atm you use. Plus for withdrawals you can use any Pick and Pay, Shoprite and Score. You also have the interent banking option, transactions fees are lower than normal and no monthly subscription fee. And there is no charge for straight debit card transactions. Why would you need more ATMS I guess because it R3 a tranaction and free balance statements Still no train smash to use the other ATMS. Ps, you can access the internet banking via cell phone through Opera Mini. Ps, if Spark Atms are those ones in the shops, you will see a lot of them are powered by Capitec, the same bank charges apply. Have been with Capitec for about 5 years now (wish I8217d bought more of there shares then)having enjoyed very good service throughout this time, never having experienced any problem and always being treated very well by their staff. How many companies can one honestly say that about these days Also have saved considerably in fees during this time, as well as in both frustration and stress. Apart from appearing to be well organised with little in the way of complication, yet able to operate a very secure system, they also provide well for the needs and comfort of their clients when visiting their branches or using their facilities. This is in stark contrast to most of the other banks, as well as others in the service industry, who in this respect seem to put the customer way down in terms of consideration. My only negative comment is that they do not have enough of their own ATM8217s but this is partially offset by being able to make withdrawls at some of the stores and is probably one of the reason they are able to maintain lower fees. I am now about to cancel my Nedbank credit card to avoid their ever escalating high annual fees as well as the unreasonably high interest fees incurred if one misses a full payment date even if it is their fault that in that they do not process the payment in time. I intend rather to rely on my Capitec debit card for all purchases and cash withdrawls from now on as I8217ve have been very happy with the results of using it in this way over the past few months and find the fees very reasonable. When comparing competitive savings account rates from other banks to those offered by Capitec, I would strongly advise that they are asked provide in writing details of all fees applicable to the account being considered, including any entrance fee to be charged on the amount deposited. As a case in point, my wife on opening a fixed deposit account with Absa some time ago, was charged with such a fee which had not been disclosed to her, this in spite of her having asked for details of all the fees due. To their credit they did cancel this after receiving a strong protest from her, but she is now very wary indeed of dealing with them. She is now also a confirmed Capitec client. Lets hope Capitec manage to maintain their current excellent level of service and avoid following in the footsteps of many other companies who have allowed their service levels to fall having become corrupted by success. Others could do well to heed the writing on the wall. My Standard Bank poor service story as published on my own website: Herewith to share with you yet another pathetic service delivery experience. This time at Standard Bank Milnerton on 31 March 2010. This is of course my opinion and my experience, but why is it that the basic obvious costumer service is often neglected at this branch 8211 or is it Standard Bank in general Same old story Standing in a queue at month-end with only three of the five point of sales booths were open to the public. This while businesses are making cash deposits and with the obvious increase of floor traffic more than VISIBLE at month end. No leadership Not one single STAFF MEMBER of this branch took any care of SUPERVISING this process. I finally observed a Standard Bank 8216senior8217 employee making photocopies 8211 but with NO INTEREST to even look at the queue (their bread and butter). After attracting his attention and telling him about this lack of customer service I was in no uncertain terms informed that it is the team leader8217s responsibility. No RESPONSIBILITY taken by this banking official (not even an attempt), no interest and no customer care. No team leader insight. Visible barrier With a divider panel in front of the service delivery counter there is no way any service delivery agent team leader will ever observe any effective poor service delivery standards. No VISIBILITY between customer and TEAM LEADERSHIP. Standard Bank should be ashamed of themselves for placing a barrier between their so called shop floor leadership8221 and their clients. I personally think they are hiding from operational efficiency. creating an unfair business practise for both the customer and operational staff,. Personal confrontation I raised my voice at this gentleman, because I wanted to. I wanted everybody to hear my complaint 8211 because it concerned everybody in that queue. Suddenly serviced happened. Another counter suddenly opened up. And this is not for me dear reader 8211 this is for everybody standing in these queues. Sad conclusion What comes to mind here A definite lack of branch leadership. A lack of intensity in any real customer care and or a lack of customer service delivery skills ever so often displayed at this branch. What I realised today is that this will NEVER change. They just cannot change it 8211 unless you change the poor service delivery culture in management you will not see any changes. Fortunately most of our business can be delivered via the Internet. I am of opinion that the decay of leadership is not staff related, but is 100 the product of their management8217s inability to understand basic business service delivery principles. As always, I find this level of uninterested and pathetic service levels unacceptable, but let it be a lesson for the rest of us on how not to treat our customers. Vernon Chalmers 1 April 2010 Hi guys and gals I8217m a young lady just looking for the best possible option to save money I don8217t earn alot but at the same time I don8217t have many expenses at the present time. I find that it8217s important for me to save money and was thinking about the saving plan from capitec. Anyone have any suggestions8230 Some pro8217s and con8217s of this option would really help The only con would be if you rely a lot on ATM8217s. Even so it is not really a con as Capitecs fees at other ATM8217s are often cheaper than other banks standard ATM fees at their own ATM8217s for large amounts of cash. The internet banking could use an interface update but it is functional and works. At this point it has no fluff features (i. e. you can8217t use CApitec Internet banking to buy airtime or electricity) I8217ve been with Capitec for about 2.5 months now and am completely happy. It is so nice to finally have my interest earned exceed my banking charges paid. Thanks for the info, it makes me feel a little bit more at ease, you know starting in the real world aint that easy as most people just want to 8220CON8221 you and really just rip you off, I8217ve seen it with people who have been in the game for many years, that8217s why I really just want to do things right the first time round I don8217t want to save my money somewhere it would cost more than I am saving in the end8230 You know Anyway, I do believe I have my mind set and will be opening a saving plan account at capitec as soon as possible. Thanks again by the way. Zesuliwe Shabangu says: Capitec it the best bank ever believe me. It been 5 years now of a good amp trustful relationship with them. Thanks to my late mother who introduce me to Capitec Bank. Invest with Capitec the interest is good. I even told my colleagues about it cause i know amp I8217ve got a proof of what i8217m talking about, with the money that i invested i bought myself a Golf 5. Thank you Capitec WOW. after reading all these posts I8217M SO PROUD TO WORK FOR CAPITEC BANK I8217m sure you will all find what you8217re looking for with CAPITEC Having moved to Capitec, I never worry about ATM8217s just go to PnPay as it only costs R1 to draw money. Cheaper than any ATM. Meagan. To add to my Capitec account I opened a Bidvest 40 day notice account. This I use only as a savings amp gives an even better interest rate. Having a credit card is always a good back up, just keep it in control. The big guns have really become the fat cats. Capitec, Bitvest, Virgin Money, get my vote 100. I moved from ABSA to FNB 8211 Smart Account with unlimited payment option. Service fee of R 59,90month. The following transactions is free: Debit card purchases, debit orders, cash withdrawals from FNB Atm8217s, Internet amp Cell phone banking, transfers in and out of account. The only services that is charged extra is withdrawals from branch, cash deposits at branches, cash withdrawals from Saswitch machines. I save R 500month Capitec is the Best I also have a Discovery VISA card which gives me points and helps me with my Medical Aid. Here8217s another option 8211 FNB Encore account for the over 558217s. Most items are free (ATM withdrawals and Internet) and you will have to deposit R10,000 into a fixed deposit (at a good rate)Remember for most travelling in Africa you need Visa as it8217s the ONLY credit card that works in the few ATM machines Applies to most developing countries as they are they credit card with approx 80 of the market. To FNB customers Even if FNB is cheaper, it can never be compared with Capitec, i was using FNB but now i am using Capitec. Guys almost everything is for free, and i now see where my money is going. Service Fee of R59 is cheaper but are you swiping for free, re you drawing cash for less charges i do that for very very less and for free, i dont fell guilty after swiping coca cola can cos it is free. Capitec is the best. As for travelling visa, i will cross the bridge when i get there anyway is not like we travel everyday. FNB works for me, Capitec branches are not everywhere, and with FNB8217s Cash Send option, I can immediately transfer funds from my cellphone, internet banking or FNB ATM to another person. I say again, only R 59,90month, all cash withdrawals at FNB ATM8217s are free, no debit card purchase fees, no debit order fees. You only pay for cash deposits and withdrawals done inside a branch, from a Saswitch ATM. Cellphone, Internet Banking and In Contact is for free The FNB option that Reinette is speaking about sounds good, I looked it up, I just can8217t seem to find the fees for debit order payments, unless it is listed under stop orders, in which case it will be R25 per online banking. I also can8217t see the credit interest that you will get in that account. The other options sound good though and it is much better than anything else they had to offer before, this might be directly attribubtable to Capitec starting a better banking paradigm. No fees are charged for debit orders. I have several debit orders on my account and has never been charged a cent 8211 what a joy compared to another bank8217s R35,00 per debit order What type of Capitec account is suitable for a small business Currently have a Nedbank account which is killing me with charges They really only have one account type. You can link several sub accounts which I find useful for my business. My children have been bugging me for years to switch from Standard Bank to Capitec. Well i wandered down to the local branch and voila 8230 45 minutes later it was all very painlessly done. Customer service. Am afraid Standard Bank dont know the word and if they have ever heard of it. dont understand the concept. nor how to DO customer service. Well done Capitec. The Fees. 8230i keep re-reading the fine print and just cant believe it is as good as it seems. there HAS to be a catch somewhere. or am i just cynical from being burned for so many years by Standard Bank. It will take time to unravel my finances from Standard, but it IS already happening. Cheers Standard. you8217ve screwed me over the last 25 years. i am so outta here. Hello Capitec, lets do some serious business together. Well done Mark, you should have done it years ago, it was cheaper and you had a higher interest rate on your balance. Reniette, no debit fee charges sounds brilliant, but still, Capitec charges R2.75 per debit order or stop order irrespective of amount. R1 for a cash withdrawal at Pick amp pay, shoprite and others (currently the special is ZERO rand per withdrawal. R3.75 at Capitec ATM and R7 at other bank ATM, irrespective of the amount drawn. all this for R4.50. I am not sure that my service fees come to R60 per month, plus I get a great interest, Daily Savings Account R0 R10 000 7.00 R10 000 R25 000 5.75 R25 000 R100 000 5.75 So my interest often beats my service fees, even if you look at just my main account, which is often left bare at the end of the month because I use the flexi save option and what ever is left I shove into my bond. hey Justin 8230 dont 8220rub it in8221 my friend LOL 8230 i try not to think too hard about all that hard earned money i have so naively handed over to SB for 8220services8221 rendered over all these years. Could have bought a car with all that money 8230 darn, there i go agaiin thinking about it it seems that the key selling point with Capitec is that they ofer what most of the 8220man in the street8221 people, want. simple, cost effective, rewarding banking without too many (expensive) options. Rewarding being defined as hassle free, decent interest, minimal fees. Well done Capitec. Their savings account may be great, but one thing to be very careful of 8211 Capitec charge some of the highest interest rates in the industry for credit. opinionated. I must agree with you there. Their 3 month loan has you paying at 9 interest straight. ie, take a loan for R100 000 at the end of the 3 months you must pay R100 900. But then again, I believe in only 2 loans, Home loan and a loan to buy a car. Never take a loan on anything else. Yushra dalvie says: I am fed up of standard im a new account customer and I received pathetic service. im banking wit capitec since ive been on college 6yrz ago and I neva had problems. i opened a check acc standard bank and one of there consultants transfered a R2 my god with out my permision and then I found out 2months later I owe them a R115 but I never activated the account. thats fraud and im phoning them for more then 3weeks and my score has dropped. but I went to the ncr and they will deal with them, I wil advise my friends and family to think of standard bank as the last choice oops. made a mistake, my comment should read, take a R100 000 loan and at the end of three months you pay R109 000. According to Larsen, various share options in terms of share-incentive schemes have been awarded over the years to Maree, who has been chief executive since 1999. In 2009, when there were no profits, Maree did not exercise any options. An amount of R6.6m was entered as an expense on the income statement in terms of international IFRS accounting standards. Maree did not receive that amount that year. If this amount is added to Marees basic pay, his remuneration could have been R12.5m. This highlights the problem that arises with share options, in that annual reports DO NOT CLEARLY INDICATE HOW AND WHEN OPTIONS ARE INDEED EXERCISED. The exercise of options depends on various factors, such as a share price increase and the shares initial price, which must be deducted from the selling price. If the share price is lower than the issue price, it8217s an expense to the company. In 2009 Maree did not receive a bonus after having received a R8.5m bonus in 2008. The cash portion of his remuneration package that year was R4.5m and his benefits and pension scheme contributions R273 000 and R745 000 respectively, bringing the total package to R14m. According to Larsen, a deferred bonus of R2.5m was payable to Maree in March 2009. Had he received this, it would have been indicated as such in his remuneration package for the year. Maree exercised no share options in 2008. A total of R6.4m was noted AS AN EXPENSE82308230 If this were added to his 2008 remuneration, he MIGHT HAVE EARNED R23m. I think he has sponged off the client base and share holder base more than required. What does the client base say or would you feed him until he pops AND AGAIN THE PATTERNS ARE APPEARING China8217s attitude of progress above all else, above Human rights, above equity. or pain common decadency. Should like every other such injustice of the past or present, have no place in Africa, let only South Africa. China is running out of space and clean water due to their lack of care. let them figure out how to fix their own mess rather than dumping their inappropriate and harmful, mining. farming. and economic practices upon nations who have more than enough of their own atrocities to deal with. Down with greedy directors amp the worlds it is killing in the name of progress, money and power. A few days later, in Luanda, the journalists get some context for what theyve been told. A mine-clearance official from a Norwegian agency confirms the total indifference of Chinese labourers to landmines, saying: Weve got over 2 million Angolans living next to more than 3,000 areas that we know are mined. And those areas are just the ones we know about. One day I came across a crew of Chinese workers, who were firing up their machines right in among the little red marker stones that identify a minefield. I pointed to the stones and told them what they meant. They didnt care. They just shrugged their shoulders and got on with the job. A Chinese diplomat in Luanda explains to the journalists the reason: Theyre just not scared of dying. They know that if anything happens to them, their families will be handsomely compensated. These men are not afraid of sacrifice. The diplomat added that the family of the victim theyd heard about on the Lobito road would receive 44,000, a huge figure for people from rural China. So what is the story symbolic of On the surface, its obviously to do with the fact that Chinese workers are not at all like workers from the West (if there still is such a thing in Africa). To the Chinese, long hours and dangerous conditions mean comparatively little they appear to place their projects and their communities before themselves. Second, they do have something in common with their colonial predecessors a tendency to let the local population do the heavy lifting (taking the mechanised diggers while the Angolans take the shovels, for instance). Third, and perhaps most symbolically, theres the building of infrastructure in areas that have been neglected for decades. The trench, as Michel and Beuret make clear, was being dug for a fibre-optic cable that would run between the Angolan towns of Benguela and Lubango. The workers were employees of Huawei, the Chinese telecom giant. As if to reinforce the words of Ayittey, just last week a story of Chinese atrocities surfaced in the Zambian press. On Friday 15 October an entity known as the Zambian Watchdog reported that 11 miners and an onlooker had been shot and seriously wounded by Chinese nationals at the Collum Coal Mine in Sinazongwe district in Zambias Southern Province. Apparently, the miners were shot while presenting a list of grievances to Chinese managers. Commenting on the report, the Africa Review an outlet of the Nation Media Group in Kenya observed that it wasnt the first incident in Zambia this year: A few months ago, local workers at a Chinese-owned copper mine went on strike demanding better working conditions. The strike turned into a riot with reports of a Chinese manager firing at the crowd and injuring people. In such a context, does Africa need China Maybe the jurys still out as to what legacy the Asian giant will leave. But the real issue, is why China needs Africa more. Meanwhile, in another report, Standard Bank Group Ltd. announced a memorandum of understanding with Industrial amp Commercial Bank of China Ltd. Chinas largest lender, which owns a minority stake in Standard Bank, to promote nuclear cooperation between the countries, according to a South African government statement. The two banks are working with China Guangdong Nuclear Power Co. to engage with the Chinese and South African governments, the statement said. Wow, I can see why they fired you no you foolish H I won a lottery, hence have so much time on my hands. why is my time an issue with you, I got all the time in the world to forewarn others of your kind. our blinkers are off, go blind some1 else Pity you do not see the correlation has all your kontant blinded you made you like a gHost. some see the correlations in history amp did act upon ruthless men who chase after money as if it were they god. carry on supporting the corruption price fixing around you it has kept your machine well oiled. all in the name of those who violate human rights, who live life supporting injustices like fixed banking prices, supporting others for building nuclear plants in South Africa, who support, those that ban populations from practicing their Christian Faith. We do not welcome or want them here. Run along now, just as runners do sponging off the client base, filling their coffers and bank accounts at the cost of South Africans paying them the HIGHEST banking fees ETC ETC What has compounded Zuma8217s amp his government is THE FACT that South Africa has the highest number of HIV infections in the WORLD 8211 more than five million people, and a government that advocates HIV prevention 8211 by preaching regular condom us and faithfulness to one partner. The president8217s behaviour CONTRADICTS the not only common sense and decency, but undermines the South African government8217s stance on its official HIVAids campaigns. In addition, Zuma8217s actions protray a collective DISREGARD for the continent of Africa8217s moral integrity as well as suggest that corruption, theft, elections fraud, lawlessness, abuse of power and political instabilities are not just the only serious problems the continent has, but that its leaderships have problems with common decency and common sense. President Zuma8217s action shows that South Africa would have been far better today than a 8220free8221 South Africa where a HIGH SCHOOL DROP-OUT like him can caricature a national leadership. The South African presidency is more of a regional leadership, given the influence and advancement of the country in southern Africa. As such, a president of South Africa should be a person of average intellectualism and acceptable dignity 8211 something that the semi-illiterate Zuma lacks at every level including transparency. RESPECT for the institution of marriage amp decent family life are the hallmark of a decisive, significant and intelligent leadership. Apparently, the South African presidency and people have missed this mark by electing a philanderer as president. One will only hope that the ANC of today will transcend blackness and IGNORANCE by RETURNING to the integrity and standard set by Nelson Mandela in a post Zuma8217s era of international shame and ridicule. CAN YOU ACTUALLY SEE where I am coming from THAT TRANSPARENCY IS KEY. Run along now supporting those that have added to the unemployment rate in this country so that you too may face the same wrath of that which you have actioned against others. old Jacko ranked 16th amongst his old club boys the so called super star CEO who is losing his 8220midas touch8221 run along now you need to keep their machines well oiled carrying on taking your business to inflate their coffers. BRILLIANT LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER. SORRY CHINA YOU8217RE OUT take your nuclear power plants and shove them far down your allies. A certain bank suckered you for R5.5billion 8211 you are not in the limelight today or ever until you get your households in order. sorry STD bank it is OUT as in out with the old and in with the NEW youngest bank in town 8211 You chose red in your banking brand logo Red for Russians (some how the red in the Chinese is not the red what the world opted for 8211 are you still wondering why, maybe their Faith in how you have blinded your populations holds the key) CAPITEC we are with you all the way. Ok, Christina, thanks for the feedback but I think that8217s enough now. Danny De Vito says: Phew Chris 8211 I absolutely agree with everything you say here. Who would have thought that where you were labelled a communist banker turns out that China get the boot and Russia takes the cake. Yes we all know that Russians gave up the communists ideologies years ago 8211 only if you have DSTV would you be able to see how Russians began to prosper. Nobody wants to deal with those sleeping partners that advocate building nuclear plants in South Africa. These idiots are years behind they can not even reach common ground saving mother Earth no lets pollute sommer in SA. I have throughly enjoyed your correlations, makes perfect sense to boot out greedy directors that have just sponged off the general public for far too long. In all in the name of saving their skins boot out the work force but keep the internal lechers. I think that is how you spell people to such blood out of their client base and share holder value. Time to boot out the old ice cold blue standart and in with new technologists amp new bankers that are prepared to stand up against this old regime. I am loving it 8211 please do not be dishearten please show us more correlations more similarities where banks have failed their communities. I for one closed our business corporate account with Standard Bank amp opened a further 145 accounts for my labors. it took us three days, however my staff love me for going this extra mile with them. We were horrified to hear how some of their Zambian family members were defrauded at the Zambian STANBIC ATMs. We know they have lost the plot with banking outside of SA. Pity too many South Africans still wear blinkers being blinded by their own bankers. as standard banks profiteers from their customers from all walks of life for doing the bear minimum of any banking service. The whole Africa debacle and exposure into 15 African countries is going to hit them the hardest. I just feel sorry for the masses that have been blinded by the standard bank directors (was told 12 directors hold posts in the credit dept alone at JHB Head Office Simmonds street, how come they were not shown the street, are they owing the bank too much debt in order to be fired) it is a crying shame they still hold their posts. Capitec we wish you much success, continue to grow South Africa is behind you. This is funnier than anything I have read in ages Who gives a shit about Jan Wouters Just as he has shown disrespect against a complete stranger so what goes around comes around. Since when has sex got to do with anything banking you sic individual, when you can not come up with viable solution you revert to what occupies your pee brain 8211 sex my sexual orientation and frequency has f all to do with you sicko Jan Wouters 8211 go get a life. Whilst you are at it continue allowing your bank to rip you off with their highest banking charges. Stay with you blinkers on. Global international banks have learnt to steer away from charging highest banking fees against their client base, South Africans still have a long way to go before removing their business away from leeching bankers. I could reveal vast studies and transcripts of what cause large banking groups to change their modis operandi but spoon feeding days are over. History will teach you otherwise. Adios amigos Stay clear of allowing banks to rip your consumer rights into the ground. cartel days and price fixing got blown sky high into oblivion but so long as you support them they will continue to milk you dry. proudly South African, proudly woman, proudly anti banking price fixing charges, read their yearly after tax profits and where and how this years ZAR5,9 billion after tax profits were distributed to the remaining directors and their newly largest Chinese shareholder, after they retrenched over 2,000 of their staff all in the name of operational costs, acting as 8220responsible banking group8221 but the day shall come when they in turn shall be removed from their blinding thieving price fixing conduct posts. Hasta la vista Christina Jan Wouters, apparently not, but you should also realise that Capitec8217s global one card is international, you can access your cash funds anywhere in the world. I know its R4.75 per overseas debit card transaction and R35 for an ATM withdrawal. Not sure if their is an additional foreign exchange fee, but I doubt it, as it is a simple formula to put in so that your rand is converted to or whatever. It would go against what Capitec general does, which is not to charge for a a simple formula or add on extra charges where the amounts differ, eg additional 99c for every one hundred rand when it is the same administration costs Oh yes, and I forgot to mention that an international point of sale transaction is also free. So there may be no need to lose money to at the foreign exchange, just take your card. I could be wrong it would be nice if one of the capitec staff here can clarify the international aspect of the global one card Christina, Jan actually spoke in favour of Capitec, except for its lack of credit card, but why use a credit card and get into debt8230 Also, he did not question your sexual orientation, just whether you were getting any8230 Inappropriate, but I think it is based on your overwhelming responses8230 point in case. Hiya Justin You are a beaut of a man Thanks for your latest update on confirming 8220that Capitec8217s global one card is international, you can access your cash funds anywhere in the world. I know its R4.75 per overseas debit card transaction and R35 for an ATM withdrawal.8221 as far as I am concerned when a tiny no brainer like Jan Wouters starts to insult women in general, actual women who are strangers to this 8220man8221 and resorts to his sic one liner of sex 8211 one just realizes that he has lost the plot, he deserves no respect and is a loser in just about everything he does including his banking. Not nice to deliver insult for insult but come to think of it, that is the only way some folk register their conduct and mentality when you feed them their own medicine. Yeap sic people need a doctor and certain medication. LOL Stay smiling savvy bankers, cut your cloth according to your size (not the naked emperors BS). I am with savvy Capitec, who has and continues to cultivate a culture of savings, handsomely rewards their clients that have safe deposits, far above any of the cartel banks in South Africa. THANK YOU CAPITEC FOR RESTORING MY FAITH IN YOUR SOUTH AFRICAN BANK, WHERE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY MEANS MORE TO YOUR GROUP THAN LEECHING ON A CLIENT BASE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE of paying remaining directors exorbitant multi million bonuses at the cost of their staff and at the cost of retrenching over 2,000 staff members as conducted by standard bank SA ltd during OCT2010 and charging the general public and their customers, the highest FIXED banking fees witnessed anywhere in this country and globally. Does not make humanitarian sense or financial sense to have axed so many staff, all in the name of deriving a profit. Now we know your true colors standard bank, may the mass exodus continue as millions of clients remove their business from your underhand profit at all cost mentality. Makes for good reading: 8220Profit is all that matters8230. 8221 Whilst this concept is not illegal but HERE IS THE CATCH, it won8217t increase your bottom line A TBL company conceives the triple bottom line (Abbreviated as 8220TBL8221 or 82203BL8221 and also known as 8220people, planet, profit8221 or 8220the three pillars8221 in that order) People (human capital) the staff members, pertains to fair and beneficial business practices toward labour and the communities and region in which a corporation conducts its business. Without your staff supporting and promoting your business ethics, you may as well close doors and shut down. A triple bottom line enterprise seeks to benefit many constituencies, not exploit or endanger ANY group of them. In concrete terms, for example a TBL business would not use child labour and monitor all contracted companies for child labour exploitation, would pay fair salaries to its workers, would maintain a safe work environment and tolerable working hours, and would not otherwise exploit a community or its labour force. MONITOR WISELY THOSE BANK directors ENGAGING in financing companies, to build FURTHER NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS AT WHOSE COST AND WHO SHALL BE PAYING THE ULTIMATE PRICE WHEN SOMEONE HAS BLINDED OUR EARTH8217S RESOURCES AND YOUR EYES What are you going to do about it, carry on supporting these fat cats in nuclear explosion plant installations. We do not want them near us, there are far more clever means of generating CLEAN power you idiots. Solar energy has been around for centuries but alas it will not fill their profit coffers as you can not charge humans for the consumption of solar energy. ETC ETC A TBL business also typically seeks to 8220give back8221 by contributing to the strength and growth of its community with such things as health care and education. The social impact of a business towards it8217s communities. Credit cards are bad news, erodes your assets worth and locks you into debt for a lifetime. 8220Planet8221 (natural capital) refers to sustainable environmental practices. Anyone or business or group of people threatening our natural capital is to be exposed and removed from their post. Nuclear power stations are bad news globally, who in their right sane mind would want to support their thieving schemes. Banks you have a role to play here, may more people and clients expose those bank directors and it8217s share holders that financed such irresponsible thieving blinding unethical conduct that lead to devastating beyond repair human and Earth disasters. 8220Profit8221 is the economic value created by the organization after deducting the cost of all inputs, including the cost of the capital tied up. I just opened my Capitec account today YEAY. And will be closing my Standard Bank account in a month. I am so done with ridiculous bank charges and NOTHING in return. At least I earn about 6 interest per year on my positive balance with just a normal savings account8230. iv been with standard bank since 2002..bad service, had to que when i was pregnant, bt the other bank i was offered sits even water,,i now hate them with passion since i hv noticed hw capitec bank operates, i hv been trying 2get a loan even an overdraft frm my cheque account of R4800,im going 2 get a a loan frm capitecampget rid of 8217em people8230after reading that letter, i now realise most people are sickamptired of this Bank8230 Thank you so much for this post I went to Standard Bank this week to open a new business account. I have been banking with them since 1986 and currently have a Prestige account and a credit card. They would not give me and my new business partner ANY over draft facility because8230and I quote 8220we do not have any relationship with you yet8221 WHAT. My business partner banks with Investec. The business has been operating since 1995 It already makes a profit They can see that And no need to mention the bank charges for the business account8230on every transaction. So I came to work and started asking some questions, which led me to Capitec. Guess where I am going on this cold, wet Friday with a smile on my face straight to Capitec. I did the same thing..I left Standard for Capitec and i8217t the best decision I made. ) Standard bank have a way of irritating the crp out of me when it comes to EFT limits and what I8217m allowed to do with my money. No such unnessesary restrictions at Capitec. so good to see high ratings for capitec. i have been with standard bank since the day i got my autoclub 3 card 8211 so about 20 years. i recently enquired why their travel insurance on a standard bank gold card is so bad compared to FNB8217s gold credit card. they agreed that what they can offer is not as good as FNB. the only thing they could say about the standard bank gold card is that it covers you with travel insurance up to the age of 84 whereas FNB gold card only covers you up to the age of 70. um yes 8211 i am 30 years old8230 and. i am excited to join Capitec. i think i8217ll throw away my standard bank car sun shield. no promoting for that one Capitec is COOL. I was unable to open a Capitec account as I dont have a ID document but my wife opened a Capitec account and closed her FNB account. Yipeeee. The amount of money saved on bank charges is an eye opener. If I was8217nt in the red on my FNB overdraft and had a ID I would move too. FNB takes advantage of people when they are at their lowest with their fines and fees. When a debit order doesnt go thru for lack of funds FNB fines me R130.00 while capitec fee is R3.50.Finally getting rid of all our FNB accounts would be a dream come true for me. If you want to move I say go for it. Capitec lets you pay everything from your home just like before for much less. stuff standard bank8230moving ova to capitec sooner rather than later i have been a staff member at both fnb and standard bank, funny thing is staff get no special rate even when applying for bonds etc..so what8217s the use, might as well exhaust all options. Don8217t see why i should have a cheque acc. Its of absolutely no use to me8230just damn well bleeding me dry8230.Morons. Can anyone give me advice re Std Bank8217s policy of not allowing you to close a cheque account between 25th amp end of the month I switched to Capitec end of August amp waited a few days to check all my payments went off. Phone Std to close my account amp was told I need to go into the branch. Haven8217t had chance until today (29-Sep) amp when I went in, I was told they don8217t allow you to close accounts over month-end. I told the lady that I had phoned amp the consultant told me nothing about their stupid rule. She said it was on the t8217s amp c8217s 8211 I still haven8217t found where exactly. Then this same lady told me that as I have Prestige banking, I could have phoned in to close the account 8211 and she also informed me that my 8220personal banker8221 had moved amp I had a new person now (shows you how much contact I had with them over the past almost 20 years). I was then told I could, in fact, close my account 8211 provided I paid them R193 in fees for the next month. Any advice, anyone (I am putting this complaint on hellopeter as well). My advice is to just pay them whatever they want and get the hell out of there. Fighting won8217t be worth the energy. Then thank your lucky stars that you have seen the light and can look forward to 20 years of not being ripped off for a change. I can tell you every time I walk past a Standard Bank ATM or branch, I get a warm glow of satisfaction inside knowing that I dumped them ages ago. This warm glow is an unexpected perk of moving to Capitec, in addition to the perks of not being ripped off with bank charges every month and actually earning interest on my money. Thanks for the reply, Dax 8211 I have good news however. I reported the problem on HelloPeter amp I got a phonecall from Std apologising for the screw up. They decided not to charge me amp closed my account on the spot The lady I spoke to was upset about the stories a certain Mrs Govender had told me when I went into the branch 8211 basically all she told me was utter rubbish Anyway, just thought I8217d post this 8211 hopefully this can help the next poor sucker who8217s still at one of the 8220big8221 banks. Have a GREAT Capitec day everyone I8217ve been with Standard Bank for the past 8 years. My first salary cheque was deposited with them. Every cheque since has been deposited without fail. Apparently they have certain 8220ratings8221 on their cheque accounts. Despite my record with them, my 8220rating8221 is not enough to apply for a vehicle. So I went to Wesbank. Wesbank will finance me, but Standard Bank refuses to accept the debit order for the installment due to Wesbank. I have had enough, any enquiries made to Standard Bank, they simply pull up their shoulders. 8220Wait 6 months8221 was their answer. I8217m seeing an FNB consultant this afternoon and moving my cheque account. Unfortunately, Capitec is not in my country yet. I was with Standard Bank for more that 20 years. To make matters worse you find that it8217s ATMs are out of order on oay day. I swallowed my pride and went to Capitec now in Sep. I8217m living happily ever after. I guys. Interesting issues you are discussing here. It is unfortunate that iam also have a current account from standard bank which they cannot link to my savings account and therefore charge me interest separately from each account. I currently have a loan with Capitec as i could not afford theirs. My question(s) therefore is: Does Capitec have a current account and since i want to buy a car, can they finance it without me having to borrow money from them Tom Wilkinson says: I also moved to Capitec about 18 months ago, also from Standard Bank. Best thing I ever did. Tom Hi all, quite a discussion you have going on here. I8217m a business owner and its ridiculous what they are charging for business owners. Why are the over rating the prices like this and is there a bank that has a fixed rate for business accounts like you get with your personal cheque accounts I was with Standard Bank for over 30 years and am delighted to say I have finally managed to clear and close my accounts. (Took six weeks to get it done 8211 no responses to secure messages via their website or to emails, so I spent over an hour waiting in the branch. Two weeks later I8217m still waiting for the promised confirmation of closure.) I8217ve been with Capitec for two years and am sending every one I know there too (for savings accounts, not loans). The only thing I needed and couldn8217t do at Capitec was to bank a dollar cheque 8211 but I see that is indeed possible now. One thing that particularly got my goat at Standard was the punitive charges (R165 or 185 8211 I forget the exact amount) if a debit order bounced when it pushed the balance over the limit, however slightly. If that debit order was for a credit card payment, then the recipient bank would levy a similar fine for the non-payment. At Capitec the fee for a bounced debt order is all of R3.95. Capitec rocks Capitec offer good interest rates but rubbish service. Only today they gave me R100 to compensate for a mistake they made, I guess it is worth the pain of enduring bad service to receive R100 for free The outright deceipt from these banks is beyond me. I recently found out that apart from the R110 management fee that I pay with absa, I8217m also paying R140 transaction fee, R25 for each debit order and lots more that I can8217t explain. I was told on opening the acc. that the monthly fee would be R99. What do you call it when you pay over R600 to your bank I say robbery. Moving to Nedbank. They seem transparent Thank you Capitec..I have been a client of FNB and Ned Bank for many years. My bank charges have been between R500.00 and R 750.00 per month from FNB. This is because I perform many transactions and regularly draw large sums of money. I have changed to capitec and started saving money immediately. The internet banking is uncluttered, fast and secure. The token works well. I am happy that their is a bank for the people. I was with Standard Bank for a few months, and after I was misled about instalments on a loan, I simply switched to Capitec. Not to dodge my debit order, but to have some sort of control over it. I had numerous R14 charges on my Standard Bank statement every month that didn8217t even make sense. This month with Capitec my salary finally makes a bit more sense. Oh and I can check my balance online, free. I would like to trade in my mazda 2 1.3 of 2008. I wanted a small car to learn how to drive so now I can drve. Is it possible that I can trade in the car even if it has not finished two years Hi I wondered if anybody has also been the victim of a teller scam at Standard Bank branches. I have twice (at different barnches and different tellers) been told that there is a R 10 note amongst the R 100 notes being counted in the automatic teller machine. I have on both occasions made up the deposits myself and am absolutely certain that there were no R 10 notes inbetween the R 100 notes. I am with Virgin credit card and definately moving to Capitec bank. Why not try virgin mobile while you at it saved myself R1000 on my monthly bill. I took 3 months off to review my financesit takes that long and saved myself R10 000 a month. insurances, communication, transport etcKabooom Dax, in fairness, please confirm that you are neither an employee, nor shareholder, nor hold ANY interests in Capitec other than being one of their clients. Obrigado. Manny, I am nothing more than a Capitec client. I am not an employee, nor do I have any interests in the company. Although I8217m considering buying some shares LOL, and if you had read through the blog Manny, you would have noticed that Dax has barely commented8230 And no, I am not an employee of Capitec either, just someone that appreciates the way they do banking Dax: okay just asking. I8217m with you. 33 years with Standard Wnk (bad keyboard) and I8217m looking to change to Capitec. I8217ve had it with the outrageously high and stealth charges. Even FNB 8211 I have a letter dated 13 July 2009 where FNB 8220advise8221 an increase in my home loan 8220admin fee8221 from R39.90 to R52.00. R12.108230 peanuts right But it8217s a 30.2 increase. And how many home loans do FNB admin Guess 1 million So just like that they gave themselves a R12.1 mil INCREASE, PER MONTH. Nice huh First National Wnkers (bad keyboard). Justin: blog too long 8211 must work more to pay higher bank fees coming soon. So ja 8211 come early March I8217ll give Capitec a try. How else can we choke the greed A am also in the process of changing over from ABSA to Capitec Virgin Money. My ABSA monthly cost is around R150pm on my debit card and R20 on my credit card, with Capitec so far it is around R40, and VM is R0. OMW. I was thinking of opening up a savings account for my kid, that she has access to and was told to try FNB fluid account, billed as 8220FNB8217s Fluid Account is designed for the youth market, specifically for those 18 years of age or younger. Get great discounts and save on banking fees at the .8221 Well, you need a minimum balance of R1000 to avoid the monthly fee, R5.25. But then they charge you for everything else, include depositing money into your own account. How the heck are you expected to save. cash withdrawal rates Value: R0.01 R500.00 R5.70 Value: R500.01 R1 000.00 R11.40 Value: R1 000.01 R1 500.00 R17.10 Value: R1 500.01 R22.80 I really don8217t want to go into all the other charges, cause there are lots, but see fnbweb. co. zacbspricingguidePersonalFluide. asp this is recommended for kids8230 to save. hell might as well give FNB all the kids money 8230. To top it off, I asked how much they give me for credit interest, ZERO point ZERO five percent on balances above R1000. 0.05 on credit interest above R1000. man, FNB, if I wasn8217t so well brought up I would be flipping you the bird with both hands. its the final straw im changing to capitec thanks alot standerd bank for the shittie service regards I am thinking of CLOSING my Capitec account and going back to FNB, I cannot make online purchases with a Capitec Card as they don8217t have CCV numbers8230not can they say when those cards will be in. Not good enough. Anthony. I am afraid that you are confusing a DEBIT card with a CREDIT card. Credit cards have CCV numbers. Capitec does not offer a credit card, if you had read the posts you would have seen this immediately, ie, that Capitec offers only a straightforward savings account with a DEBIT card which gives you free at the till purchases. So if you want a CREDIT card, you should apply at an institution that offers the facilities, but it does not make sense to complain about an institution that does not offer Credit Card facilities not to have them. Its like complaining that your dog does not give you milk8230 Suggestions for a credit card included virgin which apparently has no subscription fee. Also, just as a matter of interest, you can make online purchases wherever they accept an EFT with Capitec. I do a number of purchases from groupon, Ubuntu deal etc which are online sites, just as an eft and emailing proof of payment. So, as so many others have pointed out, keep your credit card wherever, but for your saving banking move over to capitec, its cheaper, more convenient and better service. And by cheaper I mean hundreds of rands a month8230 I. or my wife, has a woolies credit card. It has an annual subscription but you also get vouchers. Plus to pay your account is free with your capitec card, just go install and swipe8230 Also Anthony, if you have to do an eft to your credit card from your capitec account, (which on the banks internet site credit card payments have its own option) you can just do it for I think R3 a payment. Where as FNB will charge you more than that for the transfer8230 So, logically, can8217t support your view to leaving Justin8230.nope, talking about DEBIT cards not CREDIT cards, FNB gave me one with a ccv number and I could do online transactions with it, if you like I can take a picture of it to show you. Capitec told me last year that they were also getting debit cards with CCV numbers and chips when I opened my account, that branch told me they would be available in November. I do my homework on these things. My apologies Anthony, never heard of a debit card with ccv numbers so I stand corrected. Capitec probably will take a LONG while to get it, it took them 3 years to set up their internet banking and they had their postponed start time with starting it up, but I still say it does not make economic sense to leave Capitec just for the CCV number. Rather keep capitec open foe the interest and low service fees and get a credir card if you need to do online shopping with a ccV card You will surely pass less fees with a once a month debit to your credit card from your capitec account. Standard Bank sucks I moved my account to another bank I lost my job and recently again employed. Standard Bank took my cars, got so called lawyers to handle the matter. In the mean time, bank officials are scrutenising my bank account and even took R3000 from my account, without a court order, or even the decency to inform me about it It8217s time they leave the country, we need proper banks. I know what you are saying, I bank with nedbank and their bank fees are just as ridiculous. If you add it up my bank fees for the month comes to almost R500 do you have any idea what I could have done with a R500 for a poor single mother that is daylight robbery. I will also be changing to Capitec should have it a long time ago. i think it is vital to research about the acc while the consultant helps you, with a achiver acc, there 1 for R95pm, as far as i know, with this a cheque acc you can do 4 free withdrawals and get charged on the 5th 1. Did you inquire aou that In order for you to survive those hectic charges, you need to withdraw sufficient money and swipe, which is free. Gotta love the irony of the Standard Bank banner ad next to this post8230 Ye, years back there were people who sat every day and kept all banking records up to date, real people working every day to keep savings and other account up to date, you got 12 percent interest on your savings, and there was no bank charges, today a frigging computer does all that and you pay the banks to use your money to make money, bank managers had normal cars and lived in standard middle class suburbs, but today they have to have the flashiest car and live in top suburbs, i say screw the banking paresites of this country and join the banks that realy want help the people, down with Standard, ABSA, FNB, suport wizzit and capitec FND used to charge me R150 for each debit order that bounce, if 1 debit order bounce 3 times a night then it meant that in the morning i will be owing them R650 before i even pay the debit order. FNB actually got me more in debt trap for the red tapes i8217ve been paying. FNB even suggested that they place me on a debt review but after moving to Capitec, there was no need for a review as i am now enjoying the financial freedom With Capitec i pay i think it8217s around R2.00 if i8217m not mistaken, i can not even see that i had defaulted in my debit orders Thank you capitec Very informative. Thank you I think Capitec should hire you for all the good PR Seriously though, I have banked at Standard Bank for 16 years and am now looking forward to closing my account there I8217m sick to death of being ripped off by high banking charges. I already have a Capitec account and am very happy with what I8217ve seen so far. Good riddance Standard Bank I banked through Standard bank for years. When I returned to SA after 5 years of living in another country they were most unhelpful to say the least. I managed to open a student acc (at the age of 33) and they nailed me on every transaction, especially my income from overseas. As soon as I was employed I switched to FNB. They were great for a year or two but then they became just like every bank in SA. Greedy with charges and shocking service. I was fed up, so I switched to Capitec over a year ago. Their service is great Admittedly they8217re not put to the test often as there are never any problems. The downside is that they don8217t have a credit card so I am still stuck with FNB for that service. Over the last year I have had multiple problems with FNB and I can8217t wait for Capitec to launch a credit card so that I can switch to a Capitec credit card too. Two weeks ago I tried to buy data from my mothers iPad using FNB8217s online service. I got an error message so I gave up and tried the next day from my laptop. I had initially used my iPhone. No luck. After 45 mins on the phone to the FNB call center it emerged that the service had been disabled 8220for my protection8221. Whatever. I requested that it be reactivated. TWO WEEKS AGO. I8217ve spent hours on the phone to FNB, even sending them screenshots via email. No response. So I gave up and trekked out to the shop to buy data. The solution Try not to use the FNB card. They charged me R240 for a late payment. The payment of R330 was made 3 days late. It was the first late payment I8217d made in 7years The reason is because FNB cannot debit my Capitec account for the payment each month. Call centre operater: 8220Ja some people have problems with Capitec, when are you going to pay8221 Grrrrr I intended to write about how marvelous Capitec are, not rant about FNB, apologies. Capitec encourages you to save, this should be the primary function of a bank. They8217re also open about their charges, helping you to make an informed choice. Their service is simple and streamlined and best of all your interest is better than all of the other banks. When I asked FNB why they were unable to offer me the same deal as Capitec, they responded 8220Capitec is not a real bank8221. Capitec does not misinform or overcharge the customer. So in that respect perhaps they8217re not a real bank. My money is safe and secure with Capitec, the process of switching is simple and easy. I encourage you all to do it. Switch and force to other banks to offer a better service to try and win you back. And l was also in standard bank last year l recieved a call to unkwon verifying all may details inclunding account number for standard than i asked her where she get my information she reply that they are connected with standard bank than l went to bank enquire about that they said the dont know such a thing this after that l decided to remove my cash to capitec month the derbit order of 399.00 tried to strike in standard bank acc but they didint succed now lm changing to capitec everthing its fine thanx global thanx. I have been with Capitec Bank for more than 5 years now and I am forever happy with their services. I took a personal loan with Standard bank and sadly was Retrnched 3 months later 8230 I had tried to activate the retrenchment cover and they just refused pOint blank to assit me in anyway because I did not get thru the 3mnth probation for the retrenchment cover. So I am still struggling to pay for the loan they have even blacklisted me 8230 I am done with stanfdard 8230 Wen I was a kid it was all well and gud but now that iam working and earning a decent living its like they just wanna eat all my money. So I8217ve moved to captiec and this is my 1st month let8217s see how it goes. Eric Harrison says: 8220He8217s just a poor boy from a poor family. Spare him his life from this monstrosity8221 Jokes aside, thanks for sharing this. I would like to know if you are still with Capitec now, and how things are with the recent changes in fees and interest rates Hi Eric, thanks for the comment. I was actually thinking it was time to update the post. It8217s been a while now and yes, I am still with Capitec. I have even put them to the test with some international banking which they do not do directly (they use Nedbank). I have been depositing cheques from an international bank (they struggled with the first one but no hassles since then) and they charge me R3.50 to deposit vs the R125 Standard Bank was charging me I also transferred some money from an overseas bank account and everything was fine. The interest rates have come down obviously but they still compare well against the other banks. The fees have increased very slightly and are still a fraction of the other banks8217 fees. I8217m VERY happy with Capitec. And how is capitec I also want to move to there, I also want to move from standard bank to capitec Wow. I8217m a bit shocked. I always knew standard bank has ridiculous charges bcz they r a big bank and they spend so much on trying to keep that up. None the less, I told everyone I would never leave standard because of their great customer service. Just recently I realised I spoke too soon. Firstly, I took a loan of R3k, the repayment was -30 interest on a three months payment plan. I set a debit order to run but as in life, unforeseen circumstances happened forcing me to push the payment plan to six months. I would like to tell you that that went well 8211 it didn8217t. I was told that I cnt change it regardless neither can I cancel my debit order. Now I8217m still young, I don8217t quite know if all banks do this but in my judgement, it makes no sense what so ever. I8217m really unhappy about it. Moved over to Capitec from ABSA today8230 what a wonderful process8230 Simple and positive And I have my shiny new Capitec card8230 i got back to work and contacted all my 7 debit orders to change the details (it8217s much quicker to do it yourself) and sent HR my new details. Bam. All done So excited. I think I will transfer all my money over from my ABSA account to my Capitec account now so I can start using it immediately Very excited for this8230 ABSA8217s banking fees are absolutely shocking when you actually go through them8230 I also love Capitec and have been with them for almost a year but i feel they still need to improve on certain things, like their ATMs8230how can they not have money especially month ends and they tell you to go and withdraw at Pick n Pay and there their limit is only R3000. i8221m considering to move to another bank8230i have waited long enough hoping this will emprove with time but it seems they are not doing anything about it. i have an account with FNB for the last 15 years8230i have never ever wanted to close my account so badly with them like i do now8230they charge me a ridiculous R135.00 for a debit order of R35.00 that never went off8230and on top of that R138.00 because it returned. that8217s like so pathetic8230Capitec charges R4.00 if a debit order returns8230i think FNB is so ridiculously pathetic with their bank charges, shoo, i8217m so upset i8217m going to close my account with them this weekend8230they can never get rich of our hard working earnings we deserve, the banks suppose to help us, not take advantage of our monies my word Good heavens, i8217ve never been so upset the way i am today shooo8230a bunch of morans, losers, whatever you wanna call them8230hope capitec will treat their clients with more dignity and only help us, not like FNB status 8220HOW CAN WE HELP YOU8221 by charging us such high bank charges. they should change their statement. 8220HOW CAN WE ROB YOU8221 I was also very disgruntled by FNB, I lost my job last year, having a personal loan with then, tried to make arrangements that I couldn8217t pay the full installment. My life became hell from there, I couldn8217t pay my other debit accounts because any money deposited was used for repayment of the personal loan. I would have as many repayments as the deposits I made no matter how much I deposited, as a resultI lost all of my long time policies, that would help me in my my old age, and I8217m nearing my old age i have had it with Standard bank, im switching to Capitec. Worse i was declined a bank overdraft after i have been with this bank(standard bank) for over 15 years. Capitec is great, but the problem with them is that they dont offer any cheque accounts, so you cant raise your credit scoring. i was forced to move to Nedbank for this reason but I8217m seriously considering going back to Capitec, even though my credit scoring will remain the same. also, I dont see any fixed deposits with them. I heard through one of my friends that Capitec has these ridiculously small banking fees. Wanted to switch to Capitec but alas Being a foreign student, I cannot open an account with Capitec Capitec bank is thumbs up. I8217ve been with them for about 5yrs amp I don8217t regret moving from FNB. The only thing that still worries me, Capitec bank does not offer home loans, then these other banks will penalize you for taking your account to Capitec bank. Please make us complete with you by offering us home loans so that we don8217t have to go back again and be ridiculed Nice site dude, I gather you are a fellow Internet Marketer One that note, I8217ve got 2 Google checks to deposit and I bank with the dreaded Standard Bank. I haven8217t even bothered going into to depost these checks with them, they just sitting on my desk. I already know that there will be blah blah blah stories if I go to Standard bank. I noticed you deposited it with Capitec, I8217ve been thinking bout opening an account with them for some time now. I guess I might as well go ahead and do so and take my Google checks with me at the same time and deposit into Capitec account. Just as a matter of interest, how long did the checks take to clear 8211 I pretty much abandoned adsense because of the messy check payments but at least now If Capitec can process them properly and in time then I could revisit Adsense again. Hi Daryl, Capitec currently charges R15 to process the cheques from Google, and they take 10 days to clear. Standard Bank was charging me R125 to process my Google cheques. I wish I had read this back in 2009. I am definitely moving to Capitec. Standard bank screwed me over on an ATM fraud case where ALL my current accounts got cleaned out while I was placed on hold trying to block the cards. To pay R99 per month just to be hacked at their own ATM then told it was not their fault and thus I cannot get assisted Adios Standard, keep moving forward without those of us who realize what a sham you are running. I get upset just thinking about ALL that money that Marched out of my account last week. My cents may mean nothing to them but dear Lord does it ache me to lose them. Thanks for opening up my eyes. Referring to the first post. I have an account with Nedbank and Standard bank I8217m on my way to Capitec I just scanned this blog for advice on overseas withdrawals via Capitec, but I couldn8217t see anything. I am more often overseas than not, and the Nedbank fees are killing me. I will definitely be changing over to Capitec for all SA transactions but I am wondering if anyone knows the rates for each withdrawal overseas Hi Caroline, to be honest I wouldn8217t recommend Capitec is you deal with overseas transactions a lot. They are not geared up for it. You would be able to use your Capitec bank card for transactions and withdrawals, etc. But depositing money from overseas is a mission. Tshifhiwa Nengovhela says: The mission to deposit money onto a Capitec account is worth it. Thanks to all that left a comment you have made it easy to chose my new bank. ill be going to open my capitec account tomorrow as im fed up with standard bank and really dont know why i haven taken there sht for so long . Standard Bank decided that they going to close my access bond so when i wanted to draw from it i was told its closed Now they want to charge me 5700 to open it and have taken that off the capital. i sent the mail below to there complaints dep. and have received nothing from them. I am starting to get upset now. this is just crazy First of all we were told we had an access bond on our bond and received a print out that stated we had R7000.00 available in that account we were happy with this and thought we would continue to pay extra over and above the required amount to use this on the house. Some months later called to find out what the process was to release the extra money to find out that the access bond was closed with no communication to us whatsoever. Not by mail. a call or even a letter. I was then told that it was not correct practice from your end and that we should have been notified in some way. I was then told to reapply for an access bond and the funds that were available would be available to us again. We then reapplied, and now you saying that there are no funds available from the access bond as to the R5700.00 fee. What Fee R5700 for what And not only what is this fee for and why or who in your bank made this error but if I had R7000 available a couple of months ago and continued to pay extra in the bond ( the access bond that your bank told me was open ) why is it that if you subtract R5700 from the amount that was in is there are no funds available now Whats wrong with the math here I was then told I have not only 1 bond but 2 with standard bank This is news to me as I only pay for one bond Again with your mysterious information ( This must most certainly be rectified ). I have called and sent in numerous emails asking standard bank to drop our interest rate for past year as 11.1 is really high with a result of No each time, yet now that SA Home Loans are willing to give us a rate of 9.1 are you happy to accommodate as long as we give proof that they will. What is this Is this the way you treat all your customers I have had nothing but problems with this bank and moving both my account, my Wifes account and bond to your bank has come back to bite me Its absolutely disgusting how some corporates will treat the little guy I want a full explanation of what went wrong and who was at fault from when we opened the bond to who was meant to apply this mystery fee in the first place and how you, the bank, are going to resolve this. I am happy to come in and see who ever I have to see I will bring with the print out of the access bond that was open and had R7000 available to us that we could draw that day and do not tell me to go see someone that has no knowledge of whats going on I would like an appointment. Send this mail to whoever can look into all the facts but I do want this resolved. I would like to post a thread of this to myBroadband as I believe that there are a lot of people experiencing these ( based on people I have spoken to and from what I have read on hello peter ) issues and would like to see how affectively you can resolve an issue that was created by you Standard Bank. I find it fascinating how you can treat people like this when FNB has such a strong marketing campaign and people are just looking for a reason to jump ship. Note that if this just gets pushed aside we will be closing our accounts . Yes8230I dumped Standard Bank at the end of 2013. Apart from banking with them for over 30 years, they also insured my car for 5 years8230.up to the point when someone drove into the back of me. What a nightmare8230.I can8217t even bear to think about it. They did end up paying for the repairs, but balked at paying for the breakdown service, which was more than R6000. I went into to see them, and made my displeasure and disappointment in them very clear. I received a call from the consultant (who I must say was a shinging star amongst a bunch of lazy morons) later on that afternoon, to say that Std Insurance had changed their mind, and would pay everything. I have never been so disgusted with service in all my life. I cancelled my insurance with them as soon as everything was over, and took my business elsewhere. I also closed my bank account and crossed over to FNB8230.and I haven8217t regretted it for one second. I could take each one of the comments posted here and find something that would apply to me. When I still had lots of transactions going through my FNB account, especially when I was in the country, they smiled all the way. I have a Platinum account. I tried getting a Platinum credit card (monthly income about 35k after tax) and it was declined, despite a credit rating most can only dream of. So I got one with a lower interest rate from another bank and waved it in FNB8217s faces. Oh, they hated that. They could see the debit orders to pay the other bank8217s credit card on my statement. Then they offered me a Gold Credit card and I told them Gold and Platinum don8217t look good together in the same wallet. Either give me the Platinum card, or leave it. In July 2013 I decided to rid the family of FNB and we all went to Capitec. Was getting sick and tired seeing how the kids8217 accounts were being robbed by the bank. Had the new accounts done in about one hour. I switched ALL my debit orders, and now FNB is so pd off that my 8220premier banker8221 does not even want to reply to my e-mail (I will report this little matter to someone higher up the food chain). The bank complains as it sees me as only using the Platinum account to receive my forex (I work overseas) and then move everything to Capitec (Capitec8217s forex processing via Nedbank is a pain). I told FNB to get lost 8211 as long as I pay the monthly fee on the card, and the commission on the forex, they can do nothing. Currently this is convenient for me, and the bank still gets its share. You see, the bank is only nice with you when they get a lot of money from you. When you become streetwise, they treat you like you don8217t exist. The minute Capitec manages to sort out receiving forex, then it8217s bye-bye FNB. This guy is NOT paying for the 8220privilege8221 of some platinum coloured card with 8220slow-lounge8221 access at the airport anymore. The Capitec card looks as 8220classy8221, if not better. My Fianc both repossessed house through STD bank, he didn8217t moved in to the house because the owner of the house refuse to moved out amp they promise to kill him amp his family, the community helped the owner. He go back to the bank and report matter, the bank said there is nothing they can do its not their problem its his problem, he must make a plan. Now his black listed by STD bank for the house he didn8217t even staying in to, Regarding Virgin Money 8211 i dont think the 10 interest on positive balance applies any longer. haha you can8217t even compare Capitec with Standard Bank, or any other bank for that matter. Remember this when you think of cost saving: all banks are 8220clients8221 of the reserve bank. The Bank, like you, must pay interest on money that they borrow from the reserve bank, like you. Now The Bank must pay huge amounts of intrest on their loans aswell. Por exemplo, you have a overdraft of R30 000 but you use only R5000, now that R25 000 the bank has to have in reserve for the client. just in case he decides to use R25 000 at the last day of the month, now your interest or any fees is half of what the bank has to pay ther reserve bank this means the bank makes a loss and the client is up in arms when they reseve a their monthly bank fee. Remember like any other business, a bank is also a business that needs to make profit. its not a charity organisationSlideshare uses cookies to improve functionality and performance, and to provide you with relevant advertising. Se continuar a navegar no site, você concorda com o uso de cookies neste site. Veja o nosso Contrato de Usuário e Política de Privacidade. O Slideshare usa cookies para melhorar a funcionalidade e o desempenho e fornecer publicidade relevante. Se continuar a navegar no site, você concorda com o uso de cookies neste site. 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